BC1-1908 Homework, Thibault Caradec

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  • #10483
    Thibault Caradec
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      Ok, let’s go then. While watching Kent’s livestream, I decided to start already my blocking. 

      I’ll give some background for reference :

      My profile :

      Hobbyist. I tried to use Blender a few times over the last years but never got into it, only completing very random youtube tutorial, not learning anything really. I decided on an Andrew Price’s advice in one of his video to subscribe to CGCookie, and I’m halfway through in the Modelling Bootcamp. I also participated in the vehicle contest after the Hard Surface Modelling part 1 tutorial. 

      My project :

      According to Kent’s guidelines, I decided to choose the sword as a goal, but for some variation, I chose a japanese katana. The main reason is that, in my dreams of “what could I do with Blender?”, representation of japanese samurais is one of the main things.

      My working planning

      Each day, I take the train for 1 hour and a half to come back from work. I plan to use that time to progress in my homework. I’ll be updating  this thread with my progress, problems and questions each day. 

      Reference images :

      Scale reference

      Parts

      Handle

       

      Guard

      Blade

      Let’s see how good (or bad I can make it)

      #48459
      Thibault Caradec
      Participant

        Day 0 :

        As it’s already late here in France, I just used the time during the live stream to perform the simple blocking of the katana. 

        #48460
        Kent Trammell
        Participant

          THIS is how to start a homework thread! I thoroughly enjoy the background info, your goals, and why you chose the katana. The reference images are perfect and the model is well on its way too. Nice job @otowa 👊

          #48461
          Thibault Caradec
          Participant

            Day 1 : Tsuka ito

            As soon as I decided to go for a katana, I knew that the tsuka ito was going to be one of the hardest part to do. 

            The tsuka ito is the piece of fabric (silk, or leather for example) that wraps around the handle (the tsuka). 

            The difficulties I foresaw  and the adopted solutions were : 

            -Complexity of the wrapping pattern

            If you look carefully, the material is wrapped around itself in a very specific pattern. 

            As Kent suggested to keep things pretty simple (well that’s what I understood at least), I cheated by reducing the level of complexity by modeling just two rings of material reducing in width where they cross each other, one going behind the other. 

            -Shape of the handle

            The whole katana is bend, which can become complicated for this kind of things. 

            I decided to replicate my starting double-ring with an array modifier, and, then curve the pattern with a Beziers, and I think it turns out acceptable. 

            That’s it for this day 1. It went much better than I anticipated. As for the “inside” of the handles (behind the tsuka ito, and is called the “same”), I think I will use texturing in week 2 to give some detail, unless someone here can suggest an easy way to replicate this kind of “texture”

            #48462
            Thibault Caradec
            Participant

              @theluthier Thank you! Keeping a nice thread pushes me to do things in a proper and constistent way. 

              #48463
              silentheart00
              Participant

                @otowa Nice work so far!  You’re really going for it!  As for the sharkskin texture under the wrapping, I’d probably leave it for the texturing phase.  It’d be easier, anyway, and since the majority will be under a wrapping, less important than the big features.  I would use a voronoi texture and follow a similar process for Kent’s water shader, but instead of pushing the “bump” inwards, push it outwards. Hopefully that makes sense. Let me know if it doesn’t and I’ll do my best to simplify.

                #48464
                spikeyxxx
                Participant

                  @otowa May I suggest something?

                  For the shape of the handle, in stead of using a curve, model it straight and then use a Lattice Modifier to get the curvature.

                  I’m not sure if that is better, but it does have some advantages.

                  #48465
                  Thibault Caradec
                  Participant

                    @spikeyxxx Could you tell me what benefits I would get? I remembered the curve technique from an old youtube tutorial, but I noticed theyr use lattice in the jellyfish tutorial I started recently. But I’m not sure to know why one would be best than the other. 

                    #48466
                    spikeyxxx
                    Participant

                      @otowa It would bend the whole handle consistently. You could use the Lattice for the wraps and for the underlying structure.

                      Look at my barrel, for instance, I modelled everything straight and then added a Lattice. This way the rings and the planks get bend the same way.

                      I’m not sure if this makes sense to you, but if not, don’t be afraid to ask.

                      #48467
                      Thibault Caradec
                      Participant

                        @spikeyxxx Yes it does, I’ll give it a try, thanks!

                        #48468
                        Kent Trammell
                        Participant

                          Now I know the proper name of the katana grip pattern. It inspired me to do some youtubing. Learning new things everyday!

                          The only advice I have regarding the wrap pattern is that the criss-cross feels a bit too flat in your model. Like it’s losing volume, especially when seeing the handle as a whole. I think there’s room to make the criss-cross protrude out a bit more. This photo for example:

                          As for bending the arrayed pattern, a lattice is a great choice. Also a Simple Deform modifier set to “bend” would do the trick too.

                          And I 100% agree with @silentheart00 that a voronoi procedural texture would be great for the underlying handle.

                          It’s so cool to see your process for creating the shape. This thread can now serve as a worklog for others to learn from. Way to go, Thibault.

                           

                          #48469
                          Thibault Caradec
                          Participant

                            @theluthier Thanks, I’ll see about that tomorrow!

                            #48470
                            Thibault Caradec
                            Participant

                              @silentheart00 I tried the voronoi and it’s going somewhere, but first I’d like to have them all forming nice circles, and second I’m not even sure this is the way I should go. (I used shader node on the displacement channel).

                              #48471
                              Aaron Rudderham
                              Participant

                                @otowa Maybe add a Colour Ramp to the Voronoi? The circles will be flat (usually) if that’s what you’re looking for as a base, and then you can tweak it some more. Might take a bit to get all the circle separated but it can be done.

                                #48472
                                Philipp Bauer
                                Participant

                                  Wow nice! I really like that you show us detailed work in progress!

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