At Minute 17:01 I click F to fill and I lose the inner circle of the speaker holes.

[aworkofmarc]

This is driving me to drink… i have retraced my steps 20 times. And everytime –I come to minute 17:01 I click F to fill and I lose the inner circle of the speaker holes. What in tarnation am I doing wrong!?

[Martin Bergwerf]

Hi @aworkofmarc ,

You’re Selection is wrong (incomplete); it should be something like this:

[Omar Domenech]

Yeah like Martin says, you’re basically creating a “blanket” face that’s covering everything below it. So you have to create the faces in the segments they correspond to. 

[aworkofmarc]

Hey gents.. TY for the replies. I should have included this screen capture that shows my selection prior to fill. I AM selecting the entire edge as you show in my revised graphic. (it’s not letting me insert a picture. So please see here: https://aworkofmarc.com/1/f-to-fill2.jpg  The exact outline you edged in green is selected.  If you feel especially generous, here’s the file.  
https://aworkofmarc.com/1/Game-Controller–V2.blend
🙂

[Martin Bergwerf]

Hi @aworkofmarc ,

You have so-called ‘double Vertices” here:

If you M > Merge > By Distance them, you can Fill correctly (in my Screenshot, I have already Merged them).

But another thing, your speakers are lower than the top of the console:

[aworkofmarc]

Ahhh TY. Appreciate the help.

[aworkofmarc]

Arrrgh. And still I have the same problem.

I’ve literally tried 20 times since the last message.  As seen here:  https://aworkofmarc.com/1/f-to-fill3.jpg

1) the speakers are not below –in fact in this attempt I even left them slightly above the console to make sure!

2) on none of the 4 vertices selected are there double vertices that need to be merged. They fill fine… but when I try to selct all the edges to do the 2nd face fill, I can’t select all the edges in one go.. and when I fill I get the exact same outcome as before. 

Normally I’d have given up by now entirely but now sheer aggravation propels me forward. Any ideas?

https://aworkofmarc.com/1/Game-Controller–V2.blend

[Martin Bergwerf]

Hi Marc @aworkofmarc ,

In your new upload, you still have ‘double Vertices’:

and after Merging:

Then switch to Edge Select Mode and the correct Loop will be Selected, so the Fill works as it should.

[Martin Bergwerf]

“…-in fact in this attempt I even left them slightly above the console to make sure!…”

That is just as wrong as having them below!

(That has nothing to do with the Selection and Filling; just something I noticed and that might give some Shading problems later on, so it should be fixed.)

[aworkofmarc]

Martin Broooooo! Thank you SO MUCH for hanging in there with me. Finally! Got it! As it turns out the fist 6 + times trying since the last time… I kept forgetting to check for multiple vertices with the XRAY ON, thus never finding the multiples. You have the patience of a saint 🙂 TY! I learned a lot tho, I did the preceeding steps so many times I can do them in my sleep now. hahah. 
 

[Martin Bergwerf]

Yeah, making mistakes is really a great way of learning😉

Keep going!

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