found this one from CBailey that really takes you from the basics, and I see now why I struggled: I didn’t understand how to store the animatio in action editor and push it into that action so that it would free the animation keyframes in the main dopesheet (if I make sense), AND in 4.4 some buttons are now hidden in the menu structure here it is; https://youtu.be/Hz1TwvSNsrA