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#47536
Omar Domenech
Participant

    Captains log. Delta Zero Niner, GTM. Three hours with this god forsaken toaster or blender and I’m beginning to go crazy.

    Sorry for the large summary log but it’s only because it’s the first time. Logs are bound to get shorter.

    [Sees PS4 on desk]. Let me try and model that pretty quick and see…

    – Mildly annoying how I can’t tell I’m in Face Select Mode without the little dot in the middle of the face.

    – I can’t select/deselect all with “A”, very hard to get used to.

    – I can’t enter wireframe with “Z”, really?

    – A and Z were second nature to me, why Ton!? Why!?

    – I don’t like 1, 2, 3 for selection type, give me back CTRL Tab.

    – Pie menus everywhere! CTRL Tab is pie, Period to use cursor as pivot, pie again! Z to enter wireframe pie! pie! pie! Jeez!

    – Uuuuhhh I like how fast using this Pie thing is. It’s Pie, swipe and Done. Very nice, I likes.

    – I used to Right Click all the time to get out of, or cancel, modes or menus, now right click always pops up a menu of its own. The most irritating thing so far. I keep right clicking to cancel and the menu keeps popping up and nothing gets canceled.

     – “W” –> remove doubles, now always goes into Circle Select Mode? and now if I right click to get out of circle select mode it just opens up the dangs menu again.

    – Oh my god circle select is annoying. I can now move in the 3D view with it, I can’t use the scroll wheel to change sizes and right click to get out of circle select only brings that freaking menu!

    – How do I place the 3D cursor? Right click brings the menu from hell. 

    – How do I cancel things now? Modes seems to linger and not go away like before.

    – Ooooooh W Key alternates between selection modes, very nice. That was not Circle select. Wait…. there are two circle select now? one in W key and one in C key?

    – I don’t have to “B” box select every time now. I can move freely and select stuff. Very nice, I likes.  

    – Always always the first thing I did was to CTRL Space bar to get rid of the gizmo, now it maximizes the window. Gizmo still there.

    – Uuuuhh where’s Eevee, where’s Eevee, where’s Eevee?

    – I like how I can select Loop Cut Icon from the Tool Bar and move around in the Viewport and still be in Loop Cut mode and be cutting away, like a Samurai. In 2.79 modes locked the 3D viewport.  

    – But I can’t leave Loop Cut Tool by right Clicking! dang menu. How do I get out of tools now?

    – Trying to delete a floating vertex but cant select it, turned out to be something on my monitor screen. 

    – Ok I think I understand, tools stay On now if I select them. Before you summoned them with a hotkey, used them and they went away on their own, that’s not the case now. You can select tools at the tool bar as icons and they stay with you until you select something else. That’s why right click didn’t dismiss them.

    – Everything much more smooth now, even the edge slide feels like butter.

    – Love how I can see tool on the left side and hide it if I want. 

    – Hey I can’t put Blender on full screen mode now, what’s up with that?

    – Jeez guys you kinda have to be Robin Hood to use the pie menus, you have to be very fast and very precise, otherwise the menu will get stuck and linger

    – Everything looks much more pretty now. 2.79 we have to talk… it’s not you, it’s me. 

    – Love the workspaces at the top, rapidly sets the UI to every need. 

    – Still don’t know how to get rid of the gizmo.  

    – Desktop Icon Blender Logo is the same, why not do a re-branding. A more elegant logo for a more civilized age.

    – That black menu on the lower left keeps popping up, like that Pokemon that comes out of the ground and only shows his face. It’s making me look every time. 

    – Ok I get it now, there is no getting rid of the gizmo, it now lives as part of the “literal” Transforms Tools when you select the icon in the left side tools. When I have a selection tool active, it’s the old behavior without gizmos…. very nice, I likes. 

    – Most Hotkeys stayed the same.

    – Couldn’t figure out how to place the 3D Cursor wherever I wanted it. It used to be right click and it moved there. 

    – Couldn’t set the Origin in CTRL + SHIFT + ALT +C. Don’t know where to set origin. 

    So big takeaways…. I tried the whole left side of the UI basically. Everything feels much better, looks better. Things that felt instantly better were the viewport, workspaces, menus being more visible up there than down, things are more organized and are packed naturally. 

    Things mildly annoying, the 1, 2, 3 for selection type. “A” not working as before, “Z” not working as before, also period and coma.

    The hardest thing to discover was how tools function now. The mere act of having any selection tool active is having the whole Blender 2.79 experience, where is hotkey centrist and there are no visual queues. Then as you select other tools in their respective icons, Blender changes radically, now tools don’t go away, they stay with you, you don’t have to dismiss them and they don’t lock the viewport. Also the gizmo is part of those tools now.  

    Result of the PS4 modeling: