Thanks Martin. In the 3rd filter I thought My Topics was the heading of the list of filters, not tan actual filter, lol. I was buzzing around that for awhile but dumb me didn’t click on it just to see.
With the wings I tried using bevel weights in several ways, even using vertex groups for various edges to try and smooth out the rough spots. Creases with small values and I think a couple of other things but it gets more messier than what I have now. I spent quiet a bit of time trying to smooth it out but this was the best outcome I came up with so far and decided to leave it alone for awhile. Adding edge loops, which I think would work, just adds more geometry through the whole plane so I’ll need to put a pole in there so the I can add edge loops just in the wings, so there will some wing surgery to come or just redo the wings.
But thanks guys for your analysis I’ll need that more and more, it is appreciated.